鈥淚f you want to be a journalist, you鈥檝e got to be imaginative...pushy鈥

We speak with Dorothy Byrne, 海角社区 of Sheffield alumna, about how she carved out her place as an iconic leader of British broadcasting.

Dorothy Byrne

Written by Journalism student Dana Raer

Dorothy Byrne is a lady boss, Editor at Large and the former head of News and Current Affairs at Channel 4. The commissioner of many award-winning international documentaries 鈥 one of which won a Cannes award and was nominated for an Oscar 鈥 she was last year鈥檚 speaker at the MacTaggart lecture at the Edinburgh festival, an iconic figure in the world of broadcasting, and the list goes on.

I speak with Dorothy just after she'd had an abrupt conversation with a supposed phone scammer.
 
鈥淪omebody just tried to con me on the phone by pretending to be from Amazon,鈥 she said, 鈥渂ut I pointed out, 鈥渄o not try and con an experienced journalist, this is ridiculous, get off the phone.鈥濃

Her confidence must鈥檝e unsettled the scammer enough to give explanations immediately 鈥淚'm not a criminal, I鈥檓 not a criminal鈥 to which Ms Bryne replied, 鈥淥kay, you just behave like one. Ludicrous.鈥 

Dorothy Byrne graduated from the 海角社区 of Sheffield with a Master鈥檚 in Business, saying that it is 鈥渁 terrific subject to study because so much of journalism is about examining business.鈥 

I also love the fact that Sheffield is at the heart of the countryside. Very quickly, you leave Sheffield, and you're in the Peak District and I made a lot of use of that."

Dorothy Byrne

She added: 鈥淚 also love the fact that Sheffield is at the heart of the countryside. Very quickly, you leave Sheffield, and you're in the Peak District and I made a lot of use of that. It鈥檚 a very exciting city, it has the Sheffield documentary festival, an excellent 海角社区, very good teaching with very good international relation and reputation.鈥

After graduation, she headed to Nigeria to be a volunteer teacher: 鈥淚 was mainly teaching English, although they also put me in charge of Christian religious knowledge when I was actually an atheist! I never taught it. I just had that amazing title鈥. She continues by reminiscing about the country and her love for its communities, also recalling some aspects that infuriated her. 鈥淪ome of the teachers didn't teach the pupils and some of the pupils鈥 food and books were taken or stolen. There was a lot of corruption.鈥

After breaking her leg in Nigeria, Dorothy returned to the UK for urgent treatment. However, she encountered a lot of issues in the NHS with the treatment of patients, some nurses being described as 鈥渃ruel鈥. She said that 鈥渢here are marvellous people within the National Health Service, but there are problems as well.鈥

鈥淎nd both of those things [corruption in Nigeria and with the NHS] made me so angry that I thought I would be a journalist so I could expose wickedness in Britain and the world.鈥

She applied unconventionally, and with confidence, to 50 editors of newspapers by letter, copying a catchy phrase from Reader鈥檚 Digest鈥檚 very popular leaflet: 鈥淒ear lucky reader, you have won, you have won, you have won鈥︹.

Mrs Bryne changed the words slightly: 鈥淒ear lucky editor, you have won, you have won, you have won 鈥 the trainee journalist of a lifetime. This is what you will actually receive:鈥, and proceeded to describe her CV.

49 obviously thought it was stupid ... But one man rang me up and said it made him laugh, asked me to come for an interview, and he gave me a job鈥

Dorothy Byrne

Out of all the editors, 鈥49 obviously thought it was stupid, one editor even wrote back to me saying 鈥淣ot only will I not give you a job, nobody will give you a job鈥, which is a terrible thing to say. But one man rang me up and said it made him laugh, asked me to come for an interview, and he gave me a job鈥. The conclusion? 鈥淒on鈥檛 give up. If you want to be a journalist, you've got to be imaginative and you've got to be pushy.鈥

From a local newspaper, Dorothy moved to a regional newspaper, the Northern Echo in Durham, and then to regional and national television. At Channel 4, Dorothy Byrne handled revelatory investigations and international reporting: 鈥淚'm really proud that we are world leaders in the field of international television investigation鈥, she says.

Under her offering, Channel 4 had a lot of international current affairs films, a critically acclaimed strand called Unreported World, an expos茅 on Cambridge Analytica, but also one-off documentaries such as the documentary about Syria, For Sama, or the film Sri Lanka's Killing Fields. She adds: 鈥淲e did a lot of work about war crimes by the Sri Lankan government that nobody cared about except us, and of course, the people of Sri Lanka. So that felt really good to be highlighting an issue of great importance that other people are ignoring.鈥

We did a lot of work about war crimes by the Sri Lankan government that nobody cared about except us, and of course, the people of Sri Lanka. So that felt really good to be highlighting an issue of great importance that other people are ignoring.鈥

Dorothy Byrne

For Sama is a documentary that appeared on the screen for the first time at the Sheffield International Documentary Festival. Waad al-Kateab, the young woman who made the film has previously done amazing reports about her remarkable life in Syria for Channel Four: 鈥淚t was marvellous that it won a prize at Cannes鈥, Dorothy said, 鈥渢hat's very unusual for a current affairs programme. And, you know, to be nominated for an Oscar is extraordinary.鈥

Her progressive thinking in leadership is pivotal for fundamental changes in society and in the broadcasting world, and this has been translated into the screens and homes of millions of people. She was the one to bring to light topics for Channel 4 such as rape during marriage before it was even a crime, started talks at the prestigious MacTaggart lecture about menopause and abuse in the industry without shying away 鈥淚t doesn't bother me at all speaking out about issues. Lots of people said they鈥檝e never heard a leading woman talk about the menopause before. I talk about it all the time. Partly that contributed to Channel 4 being the first major media company to have a policy on the menopause. It also felt good to speak out about the sexism I had suffered.鈥

When asked about the industry鈥檚 feminist landscape, Dorothy confirms it is much better, though it needs work: 鈥淚 think some things have gone backwards because so many women are in freelance, they haven't got staff jobs, so they have no maternity rights. For example, I was freelance and single when I had a baby, and I had to go back to work at six weeks.鈥

She expresses freely that the broadcasting industry still needs change, it is failing to rise to the challenges of our times. She says news TV programmes tend to focus on one problem, instead of looking at wider issues, for example with education: 鈥淒oes our whole school system and university system really provide the best possible education to make young people happy, challenged, and in the best position to build our country into a good and strong country?鈥

She argues that both politicians and journalists came from a very, very narrow educational background, 鈥渕ainly politics with a bit of history, bit of philosophy, bit of classics, and insufficiently from scientific backgrounds鈥. And as a result, 鈥淧oliticians and journalists struggled to cover the Covid-19 problem.鈥

鈥淚f I ran the education system, I鈥檇 be bringing back cookery lessons, and also making people love and enjoy exercise. I would teach happiness; I would teach a lot more about health. Generally, I just think we鈥檙e teaching too much of the wrong things.鈥

Dorothy Byrne, alumna of the 海角社区 of Sheffield, should be an inspiration for all of us as her career trajectory shows that no matter how many job rejections we might get, if we follow Dorothy鈥檚 advice, there will always be an unconventional way, just 鈥渄on鈥檛 give up [..] you鈥檝e got to be pushy.鈥

This is the first in a series of interviews with some of Sheffield's most noted alumni, written by students from the Department of Journalism. The project was supported by a generous gift from Professor Neil Rackham (BSc Psychology 1966 and Hon DSc 2017) to help students gain practical interview experience and to help tell the stories of some of Sheffield's most talented graduates.